マジで!? MAJI DE!?: Why wasn't Tomoya Nagase able to emulate KimuTaku's success?

Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Why wasn't Tomoya Nagase able to emulate KimuTaku's success?

1：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:10:11.60 0 ID:

キムタクが凄いのはわかるし人気が出たのもわかるんだけど
キムタクと比べると長瀬の知名度や人気がこんなにも差があるのはなんでなんだろう

正直キムタクさんを貶すつもりは一切ないけど
長瀬の方が顔もかっこよく背も高くてスタイルも抜群、
歌も演技もうまくて内面も男らしくまた愛嬌のあるキャラクターで
鼻につく要素は全くないと思うなのに
なぜいつまでもキムタクに追いつけないのだろう
もっと言えばTOKIOがSMAPになれなかったのはなんでだろう
I know that KimuTaku is amazing and why he became popular,
but I really don't get why there's such a huge discrepancy with his and Nagase's name value and popularity.

I honestly have no intentions at all to speak ill of KimuTaku-san,
but Nagase is more handsome, is taller, and has amazing style.
He's also a good singer and actor, very manly, and is also very lovable.
There really are no reasons whatsoever that will make you irritated by him,
but why can't he ever catch up to KimuTaku?
And on a bigger note, why wasn't TOKIO able to emulate SMAP?

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/janisoku12/imgs/f/b/fbf091a5.jpg

2：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:11:14.42 0 ID:

あれじゃね

完璧すぎるからじゃね？

完璧な王子様ってなんか庶民には近寄りがたい雰囲気あるじゃん

I think it's because he's too perfect.
The common people might find it difficult to reach these perfect prince charmings.

711：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 23:35:04.39 0 ID:: >>2

キムタクが売れたのは短足だからよ＠昔の美輪の発言

他いろいろ褒めてたけど最後の締めの一言
KimuTaku became popular because he has short legs, according to what Miwa-san said before.
Miwa-san did praise various aspects of KimuTaku but that was the wrap-up statement.

5：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:12:14.49 0 ID:

長瀬は男として完璧

As a man, Nagase is perfect.

6：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:12:15.97 0 ID:

長瀬とキムタクが同じグループにいたら人気半端なかったろうな

If Nagase and KimuTaku were in the same group, their popularity would have been insane.

10：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:13:44.08 0 ID:

キムタクの場合ドラマに恵まれたと思うな

In KimuTaku's case, I think he was blessed with dramas.

17：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:14:38.85 0 ID:: >>10

ドラマの内容というより枠に恵まれたかんじだと思う
I think it was more of the drama's time slot rather than the contents which KimuTaku benefited from.

12：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:13:51.54 0 ID:

男人気のほうがあるね長瀬は

Nagase's the one who's more popular with men

14：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:14:10.40 0 ID:

今はゴツくなりすぎて男臭すぎてジャニーズ感がまったくない

He's become too rugged and manly now, he's doesn't seem "Johnny's" at all

http://www.guthrie.co.jp/entries/moscot/photo/090727-195854/02.jpg

16：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:14:25.37 0 ID:

長瀬ほど完璧なジャニーズアイドルは歴代遡ってもいないよな

There's no perfect Johnny's idol like Nagase even if you search through history

20：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:15:10.96 0 ID:

15歳くらいの長瀬はかなりの美少年だった

Nagase was a real pretty boy when he was about 15

http://file.miwawan.blog.shinobi.jp/9d3c7674.jpeg

23：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:16:20.04 0 ID:

キムタクのような色気が足りない

He lacks that "sexiness" that KimuTaku has

24：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:16:25.07 0 ID:

キムタクは男でもわかる色気がある

長瀬は格好いいけどそれが無いんだよな

対抗馬なら滝沢だけど身長が

KimuTaku has that "sexiness" that even men would see.
Nagase's handsome, but he doesn't have that.

I think Takizawa's more of a rival candidate in that category, but his height...

27：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:16:49.81 0 ID:

昔から長瀬には色気がない

キムタクは若い時フェロモンってやつが出てた気がする

Nagase's never had that sexiness.
In KimuTaku's case, you could feel pheromones coming out of him.

http://safariman.c.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_93e/safariman/img_178150_6439780_2.jpg?c=a1

31：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:17:53.86 0 ID:

完璧にみえて単純でバカだからいいんだろ

グループでの立ち位置だと長瀬は香取になるとおもうわ

At first glance, Nagase seems perfect, but he's actually stupid. But that's what's actually good about him.
Position-wise within the group, I think Nagase is more like in Katori's spot.

35：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:19:07.60 0 ID:

メタラーだったり浜崎とつきあったりちょっとずれてるところがかわいい

He's a metalhead, he dated Hamasaki... the odd little things like that are cute.

37：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:19:45.21 O ID:

気持ち悪いホットパンツをはいてたから

Because he wore gross hot pants before

http://www.cyzowoman.com/images/tokiozenin01.jpg

41：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:20:26.50 0 ID:

お前ら信じられるか

これジャニーズなんだぜ

Can you guys really believe that this guy is from Johnny's?

http://i.imgur.com/iZEaZ.jpg

42：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:20:35.73 P ID:

長瀬は男臭い色気はんぱないと思うけどな

ばかっぽさというか単純さも好きだわ

よくあの顔であの性格に育ったものた

I do think that Nagase's manly sexiness is staggering.
I also like that he's an idiotic simpleton.
I'm impressed at how he grew up with that kind of attitude despite having that kind of face.

46：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:21:28.99 0 ID:: >>42

男ならああいう風になりたかったって思うよな
Men would really want to become someone like him, huh

45：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:21:08.06 0 ID:

あのルックスなら普通は近寄りがたいけど

性格は天然で腰が低いってのが逆に魅力になってるな

He'd be hard to approach with those looks, but what's appealing about him is that he's goofy and modest.

54：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:22:48.47 0 ID:

世間的にヒットした長瀬のドラマってなんかあったっけ？

What were Nagase's dramas that you could consider hits with the masses?

61：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:23:40.54 0 ID:: >>54

IWGPとかタイガー&ドラゴンとかかな
Maybe IWGP and Tiger & Dragon

65：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:24:14.33 0 ID:: >>54

20年ジャニがゴリ押ししてきたけど

マイボスマイヒーローが唯一ヒットしたって言えるぐらいかな
He's been pushed by Johnny's for 20 years, but the only one you can call a hit would be My Boss, My Hero

63：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:24:04.42 0 ID:

ブクロ最高ー

Bukuro Saiko---

66：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:24:33.17 0 ID:

30前後ならIWGPにはまったやつ多いだろ

There are probably a lot of people around 30 now who got addicted to IWGP

72：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:25:06.16 0 ID:

女は中性的な男のほうが好きなんだよ

Women prefer the androgynous-looking men more

76：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:25:19.64 0 ID:

男受けはいいけどそれならキムタクももっとあるだろｗ

ネットでは嫌われてるがキムタクほど男に憧れられたアイドルはいないと思う

He's popular with men, but I think that's more true for KimuTaku.
He's basically hated by netizens, but I don't think there's ever been an idol who was admired by men as much as KimuTaku.

http://kimutaku.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_604/kimutaku/kimutaku3-d9da6.jpg

81：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:26:24.40 0 ID:

キムタクは鼻につくから嫌いだった

KimuTaku is irritating and I hated him

90：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:28:07.27 0 ID:

キムタクさんやSMAPが凄いのはSMAP世代の人じゃなくてもロンバケや世界一にひとつだけの花は全員知ってる

I think KimuTaku-san and SMAP are amazing because everyone knows the drama Long Vacation and the song "Sekai ni hitotsu dake no hana", even if they aren't from the SMAP generation.

92：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:28:17.15 0 ID:

キムタクはやっぱ一世風靡するオーラがある

KimuTaku has that aura that he could take the world by storm

103：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:30:21.11 0 ID:

影の部分が足りないしそこから滲み出す色気も感じない

難しいこととか全然考えてなさそうだもん

I think he lacks 'darkness' and you can't feel the sexiness that one pulls out from that.
He doesn't seem like he thinks too hard about anything.

107：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:30:48.24 0 ID:

逆に世間的にヒットしたキムタクのドラマってリアルになんだ？

あの人コケたドラマないからどれがヒットなのかわからんｗ

So which of KimuTaku's dramas can you really call a hit?
That guy never had a flop, so I don't know which you can consider a hit LOL

113：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:32:16.56 0 ID:: >>107

全部ヒットでいいんじゃない

例えばキムタク以外の奴がキムタクぐらいの視聴率出したら間違いなく大ヒット扱いだし
Then all of them are hits.
If anyone other than KimuTaku gets ratings as high as KimuTaku's then there's no doubt that you can consider that drama a hit.

108：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:30:59.16 0 ID:

キムタクは１０年以上連続抱かれたい男1位を君臨した

長瀬はランクインすらされない

KimuTaku ranked #1 for 10 straight years as the 'man you want to make love with the most'.
Nagase didn't even make it to those rankings.

116：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:32:54.10 0 ID:: >>108

嘘ツケランクインはされてるぞ
Liar, he was ranked

124：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:35:37.19 0 ID:

松岡ってイケメン担当だったの？

So was Matsuoka the ikemen character of the group?

http://i.imgur.com/gkVzr.jpg

127：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:36:10.66 0 ID:: >>124

松岡は大沢くんポジだったよ
Matsuoka was similar to Oosawa-kun's position

130：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:36:39.95 0 ID:

キムタクと長瀬ってスーパーエースって感じだけど何か交流とかないのかな？

一切この二人のエピソード聞いたことないんだけど

KimuTaku and Nagase both feel like these super aces, but haven't they ever been together?
I've never ever heard of any sort of episode involving these two.

141：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:38:43.85 0 ID:

つーかあんまり言われないがジャニで一番ゴリ押しされてるのってTOKIOじゃね？

歌もまったく売れないのになぜか毎年紅白でてるし

売れてる先輩や後輩もいるから自分達まったく叩かれないポジション

No one mentions this but I think TOKIO's the group that's being pushed forward the most by Johnny's.
Their songs aren't selling at all, but they're still at the Kouhaku every single year.
They have senpais and kouhais who sell well, so they're in this position where they're not being bashed at all.

143：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:39:23.79 0 ID:: >>141

長瀬のいるグループだからな
Because Nagase's in that group

144：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:39:36.67 0 ID:

確かにいいポジションについたよな

売れなくても誰も何とも思わないし

They really are in a good position.
No one thinks and says anything even when they aren't selling.

148：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:40:11.74 0 ID:

長瀬のヒットドラマがデビューしてから12年後って遅すぎるだろ

あれでTOKIO人気出るかと思ったら

全く変わらず事務所も全然押さなかったよな

マイボスは一体なんだったんだろう

But it took Nagase 12 years from his debut before he got a hit drama.
I thought TOKIO would finally become popular after that, but nothing changed at all, and the agency didn't even push for them.
I wonder what My Boss really was to him.

154：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:42:31.17 0 ID:

SMAPどころか嵐に抜かれるとは夢にも思わなかった

I think that never in their wildest dreams have they imagined that Arashi would overtake them.

158：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:43:12.79 0 ID:: >>154

嵐どころか滝翼以外のグループすべてに抜かれてるだろ
Not just Arashi, all groups other than Tackey & Tsubasa have overtook them.

163：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:44:27.65 0 ID:

TOKIOとしても良いポジションにいるし

5人それぞれも良いポジションにいるよな

TOKIO's in a really good position, and all 5 of them are also in good positions.

170：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:45:48.38 0 ID:

長瀬は役者としてやってきゃいいと思うけどな

主役だと数字取れないってならそろそろ二番手ぐらいでもいいし

I think Nagase should just carry on as the lead in dramas.
If he can't get ratings as the lead, then I think he should also settle for supporting roles.

174：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:46:20.15 0 ID:

長瀬ほんとに美少年だったよな

抱きたかったわ

Nagase really used to be a pretty boy.
I really wanted to make love to him.

http://up.gc-img.net/post_img/2012/12/WwKZuwxMbS8d6DZ_CZtwq_27.jpeg

199：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:50:09.26 0 ID:

長瀬って途中加入なのに偉そうだよね

Nagase's cheeky even though he just joined the group midway through.

202：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:51:01.65 0 ID:: >>199

というか長瀬をデビューさせるために作ったグループだろ
Err, that group was established so they can let Nagase have his debut.

206：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:52:49.54 0 ID:

違うだろ

城島茂バンドの発展で

SMAPの国分たちを入れただけ

No.
That was like the development, or expansion of Shigeru Joshima's band.
They just included Kokubun and co. from SMAP.

216：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:55:59.48 0 ID:

でも長瀬ってジャニの中でもかなり恵まれてる

数うちゃあたる方式で昔からドラマ主演クラスずっとやってた

それでもそこまで人気でないってことは何か魅力がたりないんじゃないの

But I still think that Nagase's been pretty blessed within Johnny's.
He's always been playing leads in dramas, hoping for something to become a hit.
And the fact that he still hasn't become super popular just means that he lacks some sort of appeal.

218：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:56:22.42 0 ID:: >>216

それな
This

221：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:57:05.57 P ID:

ひとりぼっちのハブラシの長瀬はかっこよかった

スーツでギター弾いてるやつ

あれはキムタクでは様にならないな

Nagase was so cool when he sang "Hitoribocchi no Haburashi",
the one where he was playing the guitar while wearing a suit.
If KimuTaku did that, it wouldn't have looked good.

226：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:59:06.65 0 ID:

背が高いのはモテない

Tall people aren't popular with the opposite sex

228：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 21:59:33.76 0 ID:

高すぎるのもダメなのかね

So it's not good if one is too tall, huh

236：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:01:29.17 O ID:

キムタクは男でも見とれるほどの異様な色気があった長瀬は高身長超イケメンだが

色気はなかった

KimuTaku had that sexiness that could even attract men. Nagase's tall and a super ikemen but he didn't have that.

269：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:10:28.10 0 ID:

自分はアイドル好きだからTOKIOはバンドだから売れないんだなってすごく納得できる

I like idols, so I can understand very well that TOKIO isn't popular because they're a band.

280：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:13:43.66 0 ID:: >>269

自分もトキオだけ興味ないジャニDDだけど

バンドだからっていうよりも三枚目路線に逃げてる感じが苦手だ

バンド形式でも男闘呼組とか関ジャニや平成がやってるバンドは好き
I also like anyone from Johnny's except for TOKIO.
It's not because they're a band, it's more like because they were going for a more comedic taste, and it felt like running away to me.

If it's just band-type idols, there's Otokogumi, Kanjani, and Hey! Say! that I like.

276：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:13:09.71 0 ID:

TOKIOはライブでも実は女性客がほとんど

男比率が高いのはなんだかんだでSMAPとからしいね

TOKIOは男人気が高いんじゃなくバラエティ人気が高いんだよ

だからCDやドラマでもこなしてる数にしてはヒットが少ない

But the majority of TOKIO's audience in their concerts are still women.
I heard that there's a higher ratio of men attending SMAP's concerts.
It's not that TOKIO is popular with men; it's just that they're popular as variety show talents.
And that's why they only have a few hits despite having a lot of CDs and dramas.

299：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:17:25.53 0 ID:

長瀬と同世代の堂本剛の方が高校時代人気だったわ

Tsuyoshi Domoto who's in the same generation as Nagase was more popular back in high school.

301：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:17:33.03 0 ID:

長瀬はブランドあったころの月9も何本か出てるけどどれも大ヒットしなかったからな

Nagase starred in a number of Monday-9 dramas when it was still considered a brand, but nothing became a hit.

336：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:22:41.57 0 ID:

SMAPってすごいよな

キムタク以外そんなにイケメンでもないのにここまでの地位を確立した

SMAP's amazing.
The members other than KimuTaku aren't even that handsome, but they've all established this position.

358：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:26:11.03 0 ID:: >>336

女には中居みたいなチャラ男も受ける

あとマンガに出てきそうな上品で大人しい稲垣も受ける

優男の草薙だって受けるし

元気な少年キャラの香取も受ける

森はどんなキャラか忘れたｗ
It seems that women like the flashy ones like Nakai too.
There's also Inagaki who looks elegant and kind, like a manga character.
Even the gentle Kusanagi is popular.
And even Katori who's like this energetic young boy.
I forgot Mori's character though.

342：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:23:50.01 0 ID:

昔なんかの雑誌で読んだことあるけどキムタクって笑顔が女心をくすぐる可愛さを持っててそれが日本人の女には受けるんだと

俺は男だからようわからんけどそういうもんなのか

I read in some magazine before that KimuTaku's smile has this cuteness that can tickle a woman's heart, and that's why he got the hearts of the girls all over Japan. I'm a man so I don't really know that, so what about it?

364：：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:26:47.58 0 ID:: >>342

年とってキムタクはときにおばさんに見える福山もそう

日本の女は女顔が好きなんだよ

阿部チャンとかオッサン顔よりね
Now that he's aged, KimuTaku sometimes looks like an old lady. That's also true with Fukuyama.
Japanese women like those with girly faces.
Abe-chan on the other hand really looks like an old man.

397：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:30:49.74 O ID:

長瀬は美形だとは思うけど顔が濃すぎるというかむさ苦しい

福山とかキムタクとか向井理とか佐藤健とか万人ウケするのは中性的な人なんだよ

Nagase may be pretty but he looks unkempt because of his deep facial features.
Fukuyama, KimuTaku, Osamu Mukai, and Takeru Sato are the ones who look more androgynous, which has an appeal to a wider audience.

435：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:36:48.67 0 ID:

長瀬って年上女性との関係を描いたドラマってあったっけ？

視聴率的にはそれがかなり重要なんだよね

そういう意味でキムタクにはロンバケがあった

Did Nagase have a drama where he was with an older woman?
I think something like that is important if you're going for ratings.
And that's what KimuTaku had with Long Vacation.

http://hkatsukawafromtokyo.net/blog/pcbc000050153.jpg

443：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:37:54.67 0 ID:

長瀬はアウトレイジに出てほしかったな

まあこれからそれ系がどんどん似合うようになると思う

I wanted Nagase to star in Outrage.
I do think flicks like that will suit him more now.

448：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:38:44.70 0 ID:

SMAPって可愛さもあるんじゃないかな

そこが受けた要因のような気もする

TOKIOは男男しすぎなんだろうな

I think SMAP also has a cute side to them.
I believe that's also one of the reasons why they became popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ls3Y7MJpL4

451：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:39:19.74 0 ID:

ＴＯＫＩＯてＦＣ辞めた人達にライブに来てくれと手紙を送るくらいの厚かましい奴らだぜ

But TOKIO are shameless for sending letters to the former fanclub members asking them to come and attend their concert.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/6/1/61e786a2.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/0/f/0f709cc6.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/a/f/af8cd7c5.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/e/8/e8355902.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/4/6/46c22ce8.jpg

458：：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:40:36.89 0 ID:: >>451

それがなんで厚かましいって思うの？

ジャニヲタの心の貧しさよ
Any what's so shameless about this?
You Jani-wotas are so narrow-minded.

467：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:41:50.71 0 ID:: >>451

ワロタ

ワロタ・・・
LOL

LOL...

477：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:43:34.23 0 ID:: >>451

リーダー切なすぎだろ
Leader's message is so painful

459：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:41:01.56 0 ID:

長瀬は若いころ内田ユキみたいな美形だったけどちょっと成長したら顔がでかくなってゴツくなって

男から見たらかっこよくなったんだけどジャニーズっぽくなくなった

Nagase was as pretty as Yuki Uchida when he was young. When he grew older, his face became bigger and he got more rugged. He became cooler-looking from a man's point of view, but he didn't look like he came from Johnny's anymore.

469：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:42:41.16 0 ID:

お前ら長瀬くん大好きなんだな

ジャニドルで1番男受けよさそうだもんな

You guys really love Nagase-kun, huh.
He really seems like the number 1 Johnny's idol who appeals the most to men.

470：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:42:54.65 0 ID:

長瀬いい奴だろ

キムタクってなんだよ一体

Nagase's a really good guy.
What the heck is up with KimuTaku?

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/16/b3/2884ea508f03ac93a2514966e963f834.jpg

476：名無し募集中 2012/11/11(日) 22:43:29.33 O ID:

まあピークのキムタクが凄かったよな

アイドルなのに男までファッションとか真似するみたいなのってこの先でてくるのかな？

KimuTaku was really amazing in his prime.
Will there be another idol whose fashion will even be imitated by men?

489：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:46:12.34 0 ID:: >>476

出て来ないと思う
I don't think so

521：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:52:49.05 0 ID:: >>476

ナンバーナインのバルーンキャップとかクソほど売れてたなあ懐かしい

あとダウンジャケット
Number Nine's beanie really sold like crazy back then.
And that down jacket.

504：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 22:49:02.84 0 ID:

何でお前らこんな詳しいんだよw

俺もジャニならTOKIOが一番いいな

Why do you guys know so much LOL
Well, if it's within Johnny's, I like TOKIO best.

566：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 23:04:07.10 0 ID:

チビで歳取るとあれだよねえ

キムタクは微妙に低い　長瀬くらいの身長が無いと

嵐は論外

But if you're small and you grow old, it's... you know.
KimuTaku is pretty small. You should at least have the same height as Nagase.
Arashi are out of the question.

582：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 23:08:41.06 P ID:

長瀬にヲタいないとか信じられねえなぁ

他のオカマみたいなジャニタレよりずっといいと思うんだが

I really can't believe that Nagase has no wotas.
I think he's much better than those other gay-like Johnny's talents.

589：：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 23:10:47.18 0 ID:: >>582

ファッション板のスレには結構男で好きな人がいる
There are quite a lot of males who like him over at the fashion boards.

598：名無し募集中。。。 2012/11/11(日) 23:13:04.53 0 ID: