Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Kenji Darvish of Golden Bomber: "That pissed me off. Why would shop employees tweet that?"

1: Egg ★@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:28:36.63 ID:???
There has been no end to instances of celebrities being tweeted about our photographed when seen out in the street, and Kenji Darvish has expressed his anger on his blog after experiencing a similar fate.

July 8, Darvish updated his blog: "Apologies for this late night update... I just got pissed off". Darvish did not mention the name of the restaurant, the person, and the tweets in question, but he said: "I was just eating at a restaurant a while back, and I'm not sure if that guy was a staff member, but it seems that person tweeted the events as they went on; in full detail".

"It didn't seem like anyone noticed me at all... Where were they watching me from? Scary!". "To think that the food was actually good. How should I put it, this just left me with such a bad aftertaste. Actually, it gave me a bad impression.".

Not just celebrities, but intrusion into one's privacy is generally not accepted. "Why would shop employees tweet something like that? Weren't they taught not to do such a thing? I have experience in customer service and I really don't get this. I don't think I can eat out in peace anymore. It's all so troublesome." "Stress! I'll go run for a bit."

Other Twitter incidents involving celebrities are Junichi Inamoto and Miho Tanaka's date before they got married in 2011, which turned into a huge media circus. Recently, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu and Ebizo Ichikawa both complained about being pictured without permission last month. Akemi Darenogare and Hachimitsu Jiro also complained about similar incidents soon after.

2 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:29:36.88
Can people even recognize these guys even without makeup on?
5 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:31:07.22
Just go eat at home
6 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:31:16.10


> Why would shop employees tweet something like that?

Because they're part-timers w
They have no sense of loyalty towards the shop they're working for w And their pay is cheap, so that's just them releasing their stress w

55 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:45:18.82
I think this is one of the reasons
304 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 10:05:59.12
バイトだから に他ならないな しゃんとした社会人ならこんなことはしない

You're right www
Looks like there's no other reason than "because we're part timers". Any proper member of society wouldn't do such a thing.
307 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 10:08:03.82

Because such people want others to pay attention to them. "Stress release and diversion"? That's their nonsensical way of trying to justify themselves.
313 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 10:09:47.12
バイトだから? バイトだからじゃねーよ

Because they're part-timers? It's not because they're part-timers. It's because they're just helpless as human beings!
512 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 12:02:42.79
店に忠誠心ないって? 時代変わったなあ 40代だけどバイトの時でもそんなことおもったことないわ
No loyalty to the store employing you? Times sure have changed. I'm in my 40s, but not once have I thought that way even when I was a part-timer.
691 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 16:38:01.43
People like this will eventually lose places to work at
581 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 13:44:25.32
バイトしてて客がいっぱい来るのは嫌な事だって、楽が一番だって でも実際働いたらバイトしていっぱい客が来るのはもうかって楽しい事だって分かった

That's what I thought too before working. I thought, "I don't want a lot of customers coming, I want to be at ease". But when I started working, I also realized how fun it was when you started earning more the moment you had more customers.
598 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 13:59:57.35 ID:m30USX/

This. The awareness level of part-timers is much more varied than that of regular employees.
701 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 17:16:34.33

Wrong w
The guy was just expecting something like "A celeb came to the store! Imma tweet about it and get attention!"
784 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 22:00:55.18

The guy just isn't thinking about anything.
833 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/09(水) 01:39:52.21
839 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/09(水) 02:06:10.21
That person is just looking for retweets and favorites

10 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:32:25.02
If he doesn't like it then he should stop being a celebrity

20 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:35:06.36
How were you brought up?

11 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:32:30.42
それでこういった実況は何の侵害になんの? プライバシーの侵害って法的にまだ弱いんじゃなかったっけ知らないけど

I understand that when someone takes your picture, it's like a violation of your image rights. Then what do you call this one? I'm not sure, but I don't think there are enough laws being enforced for the protection of personal privacy.
13 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:33:04.98
Anyone pinpointed this yet?
16 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:34:06.33
So this means that tabloids can do things like this so they can make some profits, but amateurs aren't allowed to, huh?

25 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:36:58.21
Yer right w

18 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:34:20.53
Because that guy must've been a part-timer
21 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:35:53.49 ID:lb/
お店どこよ? こういうのって伏せてると回り回って他の店にも迷惑掛かるんだからどこの店か書けっての
Which store is this? If he keeps on holding back such information, it will just cause trouble to the other stores so he should write the name of the store already.
22 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:36:10.40
飲食やアパレルの底辺バイトに情報漏洩は御法度だとか言っても理解できないんじゃね 客商売の意識がなく自分がいかに楽しく稼ぐかしか考えてないもん
Maybe those bottom-feeder part timers at diners and apparel stores can't understand it even if you tell them that they're not supposed to have information leaked out. They probably don't have any customer service awareness, and are only concerned about having fun by themselves.
29 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:38:24.65

But Golden Bomber are pretty much has-beens already w At least he made the news with this w
31 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:38:46.29 ID:F9/
お前らに興味ある層がそういう脳みその奴ばっかりだって事だろw 普通の社会人はあんたの顔なんて知らんと思うよ
It just means that this is how the brains of people who are interested in these guys work w Normal people of society don't even know what he looks like.
33 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:39:19.77

So Twitter is just a tool that further promotes stupid people? You've got all to lose and nothing to gain...
36 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:40:48.18 ID:Ntf/

If he doesn't like things like this done to him, then he should just quit being a celebrity. Why does he have to blame the restaurant staff? This dumba$$ should actually be grateful since he's getting free publicity.
37 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:41:36.25

I guess he doesn't wear that makeup in his private affairs. I'm amazed that people recognized him without any makeup on.

44 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:42:56.78
すっぴんもたびたび曝してた まったく謎というわけじゃないよ
He did show off his no makeup look every once in a while. It's not a complete mystery, you know.

38 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:41:43.58
アンチがいるうちが華みたいなもんでつぶやかれてるうちが華というか 10年もしないうちに見かけてもつぶやかれなくなるだろうし

Two sides of the same coin. You're still good as long as you still got haters, and you're still good as long as people are still talking about you. I don't think anyone would be tweeting about seeing him in public 10 years from now.
39 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:41:50.87
This isn't just about celebrities, don't write any info about your customers
41 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:42:08.06
というルールあるのか? ないだろ? 欠陥SNSの仕組みの不備なんだよ

Are there really any rules saying that you can't tweet about a celebrity coming to your shop? None, right? It's all shortcomings of SNS.
48 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:43:22.04
で、こんな事わざわざブログに書いてどうすんだ、店名晒すわけでもなし 信者の「可哀想、抱いて!」のコメントが欲しいだけか
What's the point of him writing something like this on his blog? It's not like he's even revealing the name of the restaurant. He probably just wanted comments like "Poor thing, hug me!" from his fans.
51 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:44:06.68

I'd understand it if a regular person tweeted, but a restaurant staff? Does Bakatter really have any merits?
52 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:44:07.91
Things like this escalate into huge issues at least once every 6 months, but it never comes to an end. Such a mystery.
68 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:48:09.03
2~5年後はどうすんの?ヨシキ、真矢はドラムが上手いから生き残ってるが コイツは何の芸もないから引退か
So what is this guy planning on doing in 2~5 years time? Yoshiki and Shinya are still around because they're good at drumming, but he can't do anything so he'll probably retire, huh.
75 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:49:05.95 ID:UvC4j/
海外なら呟かれるだけでその場は何事もなく飯を食えた事に感動するが 日本のクレーマー芸能人にとっては呟く行為もクレームの対象になる
Overseas, people would tweet about the celeb and people would just give a wow and then let it go as if nothing happened, but Japan's complaining celebs seem to have this right to complain about tweets as well.
79 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:50:13.18
でもこれ考えないと同業他社に悪用されるおそれがあるな 客で紛れ込んで店員のフリして行えばいいわけでしょ さっき↓こんなの見て怖くなったわ
I think this should be given some more thought, or else, rival companies might use this to their advantage. They could mingle with the other customers, and do something similar while pretending to be that restaurant's staff, right? I saw this one below a while ago and made me scared.

826 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/09(水) 01:25:34.36
I can't help but feel sorry for the operator who got connected to the call...

80 :非通知さん@アプリ起動中@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:50:25.87

He should be grateful that he's at least getting publicity. The day will come when no one will even give a damn about him.
81 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:50:54.37

Does meeting celebrities really give you any sort of bragging rights? It's not as if you know them in person. I also can't understand people who take pictures of them.
89 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:52:42.23

Looks like people's heads haven't been catching up to the development and spread of SNS.
People just normally tweet stuff like "I saw ____" to brag about it to their friends so they can get wows. But in reality, it's all being broadcast to the rest of the world and causes quite a fuss.
92 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:53:28.64

Who wouldn't want to tweet about seeing someone eat with that kind of makeup on?
96 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:54:33.94
Why are all these different celebrities suddenly starting to complain this year? They should've started doing so ages ago.
97 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:55:06.22

If you just limited it to blog posts like "I saw ____ in ____ today~" then that would be nice, but things about him got posted in real time as they were happening, right?
I'd understand how he'd get mad at that.
And the fact that the personnel tweeted during his shift?
Now that's wrong.

99 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:55:52.22


> got posted in real time as they were happening

Still no proof if that really was what happened

98 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 08:55:33.60
Kenji said that he only blogs and doesn't go on Twitter because he'd definitely make a blunder, but then there's no point to that if it gets turned into an article like this and he gets flamed in return
110 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:00:01.07

I guess it can't be helped if he went to a place with a lot of part-timers. Being popular just means you have an increased chance of getting involved with stupid people.
Their difference in salary also comes into consideration here, so just let it rest.
Maybe he'll be more at peace if he eats at restaurants with private rooms.
111 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:00:21.36

I guess the only countermeasure these celebs can take when eating out is to eat out in proper, higher class restaurants. But even still, Junichi Inamoto and Miho Tanaka who ate at a hotel restaurant were still exposed by one of their staff, right?

158 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:14:29.17
ホテル内のレストランはほとんど赤字経営だからな 従業員の資質は決して良いものじゃない

Westin Aoi, huh. Well, restaurants in hotels almost always have no profit. I think that their personnel aren't of good standard at all.

121 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:01:37.41 ID:LvvJrwh/
客減らしたくない店はきちんと徹底させる、教育がなってないから不快な思いさせて客が減る それだけだろ

It just means that the shop will have less customers coming in when a stupid part-timer tweets stuff like this so I think it's all fair.
If the shop doesn't want their customers to decrease, then they have to enforce such laws. If their employees haven't been trained well, then they'll make customers unhappy, leading to less customers.

137 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:06:23.36
I guess I can understand his point
154 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:13:09.94
Don't expect to be treated properly when you go into restaurants that have part-timers who are bottom feeders
157 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:14:10.69

They should've just asked for his autograph instead. Because you're allowed to show that the moment he agrees to it.
161 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:15:35.53
きゃりーといい、樽美酒といい有名になった途端偉そうに注意か、売れない時は そんなの気にしなかったんだろ?
Same with Kyary and Darvish, but the moment they get popular, they start cautioning these personnel. I'm sure that they never even paid any attention to things like that before they rose to fame.
164 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:16:15.03

Nah, this is still a violation of proper manners. Even those stolen shots inside trains, even if you're not a celebrity, is against the proper code of conduct.
181 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:20:17.85
Would've been funny if he also got tweeted about while he was jogging. w
198 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/07/08(火) 09:24:22.10
つぶやくネタとかないから、芸能人なんて見ちゃったら、 良いネタが出来たとばかりにやっちゃうんだろうね
I guess people do it because they don't have anything to tweet, and suddenly start to think that they've got something to share once they see celebs

Original Thread: 【芸能】またもツイッター被害…ゴールデンボンバーの樽美酒研二「イラッときた。一体なぜ店員がそういう事をつぶやくんだ?」

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